Long Lane

richard_a

10:43 Fri, 12 Jan 2018


As I'm sure many people know, Long Lane (between Sawley and Kegworth) is in a terrible state at the moment. Construction traffic, fly-tipping and hedge cutting have all taken their toll, and the conditions are somewhere between unpleasant and hazardous. At best you end up absolutely covered in mud, and many people have suffered punctures there in the last few weeks. Our resident daily commuter said this morning that it's worse than he's ever seen it (in the better part of ten years).

Given how important a route it is for local cyclists, is there anything we can do as a club to try and improve it? Lobbying the council (I guess Leicestershire CC) to do something about it would be the best option, but I don't know how likely they are to listen.

Failing that, one suggestion this morning was perhaps using some of the clubs funds to do something about it ourselves. How expensive is it to hire street sweeper for a few hours? :-)

richard_a

10:43 Fri, 12 Jan 2018


Seems like a waste of money to me - you could sweep it today and it's be a mess again tomorrow given the weather conditions and the fact that there are tractors churning up and down there all the time.
Also, it's the council's responsibility. If you take the onus from them, they'll expect you to do it again next time.

Jim7

13:50 Fri, 12 Jan 2018


£32/hr+2hrs travel+£140 tip charge Liability for further damage to road surface= bad idea

ciccione

0:01 Sat, 13 Jan 2018


In case it wasn't clear, my suggestion about the street sweeper was tongue-in-cheek. Is lobbying the council as a club worth trying though? Since its no longer a through road for cars, they're unlikely to do anything about it unless someone asks.

richard_a

12:02 Tue, 16 Jan 2018


You need to be more on the nose than that - where's your tongue-in-cheek emoji-gif-timewaster?
I thought you'd probably bought a new broom and were trying to get the club to chip in for it....

Jim7

13:57 Tue, 16 Jan 2018


North West Leics is the council you need based on the post code of Kegworth Shooting Club (DE74 2GA) where the road is at its worst, they have an online complaints submission.

I'll leave it to you Dr Rich as you know more big scary words than my standard 4 letter vernacular that I would use ;-)

DarrenC

14:59 Tue, 16 Jan 2018


Might help coming from a famous name though Darren :-D

will

16:33 Wed, 17 Jan 2018


Although Rich has been on telly

will

16:34 Wed, 17 Jan 2018


Give me a few weeks Will and I'll be on it too ;-)

DarrenC

20:50 Wed, 17 Jan 2018


I have seen a thread on one of the local club’s faecbook pages (Leisure Lakes maybe) where there is a guy with some good connections and history of getting the appropriate council to take action on this, eg when there was only temporary road blocks by the bridge. I’ll have a dig about and see if I can find him, he might already be on the case.

newsonoid

19:02 Thu, 18 Jan 2018


I think it’s Tim (Sinclair?) from VCLE you’re thinking about Paul.

Jim7

19:46 Thu, 18 Jan 2018


Unrelated to the state of the road - the bollards have been removed from the bridge on Long Lane, and apparently the road is being re-opened to traffic from today. :-(

http://www.kegworthparishcouncil.co.uk/news/2018/01/long-lane-bridge-works

Had anyone heard anything about that before now? I thought the closure was supposed to be permanent.

richard_a

15:44 Tue, 30 Jan 2018


I'd welcome it being reopened to cars - at least that way it'll be maintained as a proper road. If it's closed, then in a few years it'll only be good for off-roading.

Simon L

15:51 Wed, 31 Jan 2018


Unfortunately it becomes dangerous when cars are using it as a rat run.
Maybe this should have it's own discussion thread, but I got this from Long Eaton club. Tim Sinclair knows a fair bit about the options and who to contact but it would also help if Kegworth Parish Council received some letters of complaint.

I’ve just received notification today, that the road bridge over the A453 at Long Lane Kegworth is reopening today.
Due to the expected increase in traffic volume, please be very careful cycling in that area.
Highways England Letter attached.
I’ve requested a chat with the project manager in relation to the safety of non-vehicular users of this road.


Tim Sinclair
Press, Publicity & Clothing Secretary.
press.vcle@purkle.plus.com

grayble

18:33 Wed, 31 Jan 2018


More info from Tim:

Kegworth Parish Council are receiving a large amount of queries in relation to the re opening of the Long Lane bridge. They have provided the following detail (see end of this post) and the section that says 'This road is gated and the gate can be re-instated on the opening of Long Lane to prevent rat-running through to Sawley' is rather at odds with the re-opening of the bridge in the first place. The re instatement of the bridge seems to simply 'tie up the loose ends' from the A453 widening and put the ball for the management of the road firmly back with the local authority. It's now a matter of what they do with that ball! Kegworth Parish Council will be keeping me up to date with any developments, which I will pass on where relevant.....

"Dear Tim

Further to our conversation today, please see below the body of the email I received from County Highways in September 2017. As you are aware, I have raised a query in relation to the last paragraph and the situation of the gates and have informed LCC that these are welded open. As soon as I hear back from LCC, I will let you know.

"As I am sure you are aware as part of the A453 Widening Scheme the overbridge that carries Long Lane was closed and widened to allow construction of the new westbound carriageway of the A453. The bridge was closed to traffic in July 2013 to enable this widening to take place and towards the end of the work on the bridge (May 2015) Highways England found that some of the concrete in the deck was of variable quality and decided to take some cores to assess the strength of the concrete. To facilitate this, Leicestershire County Council processed a second temporary 18 month Order to close the bridge.

In January 2017, unfortunately the results of the structural assessment were not available to allow the strength of the bridge to be determined, the County Council processed a further temporary 18 month closure Order; requiring the consent of the Secretary of State. The results of the assessment are now available and the County Council are working with Highways England to safely re-open the bridge before the temporary closure Order lapses.

During the 4 year closure of the bridge, local landowners and businesses that require access to both sides of the A453, have been required to detour via the A6 and A50 accessing the north side of the A453 along Warren Lane and vice versa. The re-opening of the bridge has become pressing given the improvement works to the M1 J23a (part of the East Midlands Gateway development), these works will permanently prevent access from Warren Lane onto the A50 and (unless Long Lane is re-opened) this will in effect remove access for these businesses apart from a further 4 mile detour via Sawley Marina passing under a low, narrow rail bridge that makes the route impassable for large vehicles such as skip lorries, HGV’s and agricultural equipment.

As advised by Highways England the bridge will most likely re-open with traffic lights to limit traffic to single file over the bridge. Long Lane will retain the 7.5 Tonne environmental weight limit which restricts HGV access to delivery/loading only and the number of large vehicles is expected to be low. The quarry has a new private access that re-joins at M1 junction 24.

There is an existing Prohibition of Driving order in existence on the whole length of Ratcliffe Lane from its junction with Warren Lane which has been suspended whilst Long Lane was closed. This road is gated and the gate can be re-instated on the opening of Long Lane to prevent rat-running through to Sawley"

Regards

Vicky Roe
Parish Clerk

Tel: 01509 670204"

newsonoid

16:23 Thu, 1 Feb 2018


I used to love Long Lane, it's now become pretty dangerous now that this is re-opened to cars, they are using it as a rat run :(, some are courteous and slow down pulling to the side as they approach you but there is an increasing amount of dangerous fast driving down that lane, I had three near misses yesterday with approaching cars that had little regard for cyclists. What was a haven for cyclists has now become a death trap, someone is going to get hurt badly or likely killed by these drivers, now you get idiots using it as a short cut, not slowing down and not respecting cyclists that have been using this for years.

I noticed early yesterday morning someone had dumped a ton of rubble across the road, not great but I wonder if that was another person sick of cars using this as a rat run, the rubble was cleared when I used it on the way home.

I hope they do something before someone gets hurt, re-do the bollards on the bridge and re-think this. Not sure who to contact about this but looking at the links I'm emailing the clerk@kegworthparishcouncil.co.uk voicing my opinion, if enough of us shout perhaps they might do something about it.

Jason

8:54 Thu, 19 Apr 2018


Much more rubble this morning... completely stopped the traffic!
which was nice ;-)

markn

10:01 Thu, 19 Apr 2018


I guess that's one way to make the point, I got a quick answer back from the parish council which basically stated they had no power to do anything about it and to contact 'highwayscustomerservices@leics.gov.uk' to voice the concern so I have, she also added 'Please bear in mind that while the lane is open in the way it is that the road is 'national speed limit'.' which when you think about the road signs is obvious but when you think of that as a narrow road is just scary.

I think at the very least I'll be sticking a camera back on the bike so I can record if what happened yesterday happens again as evidence to how dangerous this lane has become.

Jason

10:23 Thu, 19 Apr 2018


Keep us posted Jason on the highways reply.
We can then look at the next course of action.

macca

7:57 Sat, 28 Apr 2018


This was the reply for what it's worth which is not a lot:

Highways Customer Services
Apr 20
to me
Dear Mr Savage,

Thank you for your email dated 19/04/2018 reporting your concerns and dissatisfaction regarding Long lane road and bridge in Kegworth.

Long Lane opened to traffic on the 2nd Feb 2018. Temporary traffic signals are in place at the bridge to facilitate single lane working as requested by Highways England to control use of the bridge. Long Lane had been closed by Temporary Traffic Regulation Order (TTRO) due to Highways England works to widen the A453 and then subsequent works on the bridge.

Understanding pedestrians, cyclists and horse riders have enjoyed the traffic free road for many months, Leicestershire County Council have not agreed a permanent closure and have only processed temporary closures at the request of Highways England. No consultation is required to re-open a road closed under a TTRO to facilitate any form of maintenance or improvement works.

Additionally, the new layout at M1 Junction 24 does not allow for vehicles accessing Warren Lane to egress back onto the M1/A50. With the very low railway bridge on Warren Lane near Sawley Marina restricting high vehicles, any large vehicle will have to utilise Long Lane to egress from the area. Therefore this road has to remain open to vehicular traffic accessing the area.

Long Lane is on an annual inspection regime and has been walked and driven in the last 12 months. The status and usage of the road has not changed since before the first temporary closure to allow the A453 widening works to take place.

There are no proposals to upgrade the road.

I understand that this may not be the response you had expected, but I hope this clarifies the Councils position on this matter.

Should you have any further questions, please contact us on the number below quoting reference 10297244.



Kind Regards,

Lou Chotak
Customer Service Agent
Corporate Resources Department

Customer Service Centre, Leicestershire County Council, County Hall, Glenfield, LE3 8ST
Telephone: 0116 3050001
Minicom: 0116 3050007
Fax: 0116 3050006
E-Mail: customerservices@leics.gov.uk

Basically you've enjoyed it while it lasted, they don't have to do anything and cycle the lane at your own risk is the gist of it.

Jason

14:59 Wed, 9 May 2018


Bit of yellow paint around some of the potholes, so might mean some repairs are planned.

richardb

17:55 Wed, 9 May 2018


M1 is shut this weekend, there will be a signed diversion, but I reckon it will be worse than usual down there.
I'll be avoiding it Saturday and Sunday, and if I'm going out East I'll be going via Ruddington instead.

richardb

17:58 Wed, 9 May 2018


Thanks for the update.

macca

13:16 Sat, 12 May 2018


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